It never went to a vote of councillors, where it would have been likely voted down . https://eservices.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/ePlanning/live/Public/XC.Tr And this (Item 4) gives the reasons they changed to a wall. The also don't grow in sand so they won't be of any use to prevent coastal erosion on our open-ocean beaches. Separately at the Collaroy pool end of the beach when the walk way became unstable they just craned in these massive bags of rocks on top of each other and said job done - ugly as fuck. Section 2.4 Item 4 - classic stuff. It would be fantastic to see an interview with someone from Many Hydrolics as they did all the Scientific modeling and have been very open in sharing their data. Meanwhile, those on the other side of the divide are fearing the precedent of a return to hard structures and what this might mean for the rest of the Collaroy and Narrabeen beachfront, not to mention Wamberal, Old Bar, Byron Bay, and any other area where bad planning policy has created a wicked problem. A much higher amplitude as well. Surge and erosion even on protected beaches on the Mid North Coast today is nuts. The group aims to raise awareness of the impact that the building sector can have while pointing out that more drastic measures need to be taken, as most countries do not include full building. Spot on. Picture: Nearmap A subsequent image of Collaroy Beach from June 8, 2016. As a result, dried out sediments are carried by the wind towards the land. In the future, the problems may well be exacerbated by the above but they did not cause it "in the first place". And it was created many years ago when coastal property was much lower in value and the bang for buck was much higher. The fact that an engineer/s designed this crazy-ass wall is the concern I raised. Thanks BB. The total contribution of both the Council and the State is $3.46 million, which is 20 percent of the total cost of construction. I hope this Collaroy wall hasn't set a precedent. Not even the dude came up with half an ear! (AO) Why would you bother acquiring the affected properties "at any cost", when they're likely to be washed into the sea? Some family recently went through this as their house sat above the construction zone for the Spit / Northern Beaches Link tunnel. Not off topic JS, wouldn't be surprised if there is a hyperlink to that video in the sea wall approval document!. They are a method of hard engineering. That's the only thing stopping all the sand at the base of the wall getting washed away. They aint getting crushed. A sneaky second application, for the vertical wall was seen by very few. All of Ramsgate, Brighton, Kyeemagh, Dolls Point, Scarborough Park and lots more will be underwater in 50 or 100 years time. the whole sea level/erosion issue is here now ..hmm any idea's solutions you have come across? Thanks heaps for the update Craig. [happy to stand corrected on any of this] They have destroyed every built form on the beaches. Thats tens of thousands of homes). >>Is that because he has been paid already?? Thanks so much zen! It might take a bit of digging to prove it, but the evidence is accumulating already. We all know there is significant increases in sea level rise..are we setting a precedent that if your coastal property succumbs to coastal erosion, you should be financially compensated? What they fail to mention is the massive corruption that's involved in awarding these contracts and the fact that the construction companies themselves for the most part, are predominantly Yakuza. Lets do the modelling and begin building offshore wave traps and manmade surf-breaks. >> and the ocean will wash it all away again in the next big swell. Painful to see such a blunt object of a solution. There's been a lot written about the challenges of the various adaptation options, including the purchase of private lands. Sea level rise equation is based on the Bruun Rule to ascertain erosion in open coastal areas like Collaroy. Yeah nah. Hey guys I need to write an informative paper based on remedial measures used to protect infrastructure against erosion. Of the people that Swellnet spoke to, the opinions of how we got to this point swung from nefarious (It was rushed through during COVID because they knew people were occupied) to inept (It was signed off by a mid-level planner with no knowledge of coastal processes). Five years ago, residents along Collaroy Beach watched helplessly as enormous waves smashed into their backyards, collapsing pools and patios of their multimillion-dollar waterfront properties. Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. Narrabeen and Collaroy residents hold signs and protest their opposition towards the sea wall extension plans in November 2012 In November 2002, Harmer and Donohue led a protest against a $12 million sea wall, proposed by Warringah Council, with 3000 people linking arms along a 1.1km stretch of beach. 2)How much did the Collaroy Carpark Coastal Protection works cost? With increased ocean levels comes all those properties around Botany Bay, Parramatta river, Georges river. The legacy of that approach will be something future generations will have to live with.. Here Willi. It is possible that this is part of the Silverback's Seachange pork barrel rollout. Turned this place into a concreters paradise. There is a common denominator here, "Coastal" engineers with a lack of knowledge and understanding of coastal processes. I'd be happy to help draft it offline. In 2002, about 3000 people took to the beach to protest a planned sea wall, concerned it could destroy the beach. You can go to court to complain about the price, but you cant object to the acquisition. Im just saying its a difficult issue, beachwall terrible and if its sets a precedent huge chunks of the coast stuffed. An awkward situation, but only for one of the parties, as the Woz suspends the current Longboard World Champ. Both Donohoe and Gorden were correct, up to a point: The construction began with concrete piles sunk six metres below sea level, protected by a rock toe. Those first couple of staircases looked fucked. That's a form of speculation I believe. Sure, but wowee regarding that huge backwash and wave entering back into the surf zone. The engineers would have likely argued against this for the reasons given above (and then some). If the houses go, the road goes shortly after. Maintenance starts 2 months (?) The Collaroy Beach coastline on May 6, 2016 before major storms swept the shoreline. Plenty others have discussed it. My understanding was that council were looking at a rock revetment as they'd given approvals to a couple of other DAs for rock revetments, says Gordon. The council will buy me out at any price if things get too hot". Looks like the council are aware of the liability concerning the still submerged rocks. Shop unique custom made Canvas Prints, Framed Prints, Posters, Tapestries, and more. I do know the metro area was excluded from the NSW Coastal Policy for a long time because it was seen as too difficult, and that the CLPS was focussed on environmental values. Climate projections will have some Australian surfers rejoicing, and others not so. Just wondering if the stairs built into the wall are private property? You'd think that would then open it up for more legal action (aka why did ABC get first dibs and XYZ missed out?). Construction costs are 80% homeowner funded. I liken it to a form of gambling. This process must require wind over thousands of years but people and waves stomping over dunes seems like any dune system near a popular town once destroyed wont come back? He said when the work is complete, sand will be pushed up to cover most of the seawall. At this point, no-one can say if any consultation occurred, though the cynical view is council ticked the box by distributing flyers to the immediate neighbours, all of whom would want similar works built to protect their properties. 3) How much has Council spent on legal fees defending Land & Environment Court appeals related to seawalls since the 2016 storm? I also presume the view of the houses will be enhanced by the no trespassing signs in large red writing. "Have you ever seen such a magnificent view as the one from our balcony overlooking this active volcano? The concern about the seawall stems from the dynamic nature of sand dunes and how introducing a hard structure onto the foredune interferes with the natural state of flux. "Brendan Donohue, President of Surfrider Northern Beaches, has been talking to us about their famous Line in the Sand protest against the Collaroy/Narrabeen Seawall 18 years ago and we are very excited to replicate that campaign on the Central Coast in the not-too-distant future," Phillips said. The Northern Beaches took a massive hit by big surf and a king tide . On Saturday November 27th hundreds of locals came down to Collaroy Beach / North Narrabeen Beach in grim weather conditions to protest the monstrous 7 meter . Not every beachfront owner is a cashed up prick, some have been there 50 years when climate change etc wasnt on the radar. "I really like living here deep in the bush, close to nature. I looked at the Bruun rule - i think it was roughly 10cm sea level rise = 1metre of beach vanishes? You would never be allowed to build an incorrectly designed bridge, so why do these people get away with doing that at our beaches ? Yes it is. I was watching the houses on the cliffs at Bilgola the other day. There are plenty of other spots along the coast vulnerable to rising seas and more intense storms but Collaroy is one of the most difficult to address. The only way now is to harness the power of coastal construction science and engineering. That is why this option was selected for Palm Beach Qld, and I think should be considered for all the other coastal erosion hotspots along the NSW coast as well. I do however feel there needs to be more separation regarding fact and opinion in your article. The recently constructed Collaroy seawall yesterday failed - or passed - its first real test, depending on which side of it you stand. Yes and do they have tactile indicators in the correct place? It's a travesty in so many ways and a very poor precedent for other parts of the coast which will be deemed vulnerable to sea level rise. And thats being generous. Apologies for misreading you. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/28/world/28israel6/28israel6-sup Sea-change hostage negotiations at Hellhole of the Pacific However, the work then continued skyward with a seven metre vertical concrete wall on top of the foundations. >>How can you say there is no evidence unless you have the facts to prove it? Soon It Will Be Filled With Concrete.'. The Feds and States are the only ones with sufficient means to do anything, but for them its a case of not my problem. Went down for a look and its a fucken disgrace. Good point, however wouldn't a potential buyback theoretically drive the price up? Unlike politicians, scientists are usually very open with sharing their knowledge and data, to help inform the public. Death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. What insanity! Better still put them on a rocket for deep-space explorations [the missions that don't return] Pipeline specialist injured while duckdiving in heavy waves. (9News) But the structure has divided locals, with many describing it as an eyesore, and there are concerns it may wipe out the beach entirely. The Collaroy Beach seawall project was put to the test for the first time today with the arrival of a moderate to large east-northeast groundswell from ex-Tropical Cyclone Seth, coinciding with a king tide. Alas this would have meant some loss / damage to private property. By creating offshore reefs that only interact with the largest [damaging] swell events, the normal beach processes can be maintained by allowing small to medium swells to pass unaffected and continue the normal flow of sand. Perhaps the omission was because in 2002, protestors, led by Brendan Donohoe and Surfrider Foundation founder Tom Kirsop, formed a line in the sand stretching from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing the construction of any seawalls. As a result, if the sea erodes the shoreline (and the tidal level moves inland) it encroaches upon land once part of someone's private land title. >>Really dumb idea. The state government and council are together tipping in 20 per cent of the costs for the construction of a wall stretching from Collaroy to South Narrabeen after heavy surf and powerful storms . Joint Venture adopts new name, Te Puna Aonui. We took the easy way, down towards the ocean and along on the back of the dune. The theory is that the waves break further offshore, soaking up wave energy that would otherwise erode the leeshore dune system during storms. A quick Google informs me that they are part of the State government, either Planning or Public Works, which was news to me because its mainly staffed by UNSW academics and is associated with the uni as a research centre. The finished work is 100 metres long by 13 metres high. that would be awesome location for JOb or other jackasses to film fun vids. The thing is, the existing site was fine except a motorway was about to be built straight through it. The option of do nothing seems to have passed but it can always be thrown in as a baseline. In a story on Northern Beaches Review, Bob Orth, who lives in one of the houses behind the seawall, said the seawall should inspire others to do likewise. Edit: The estuary was in an area protected from the ocean and the cliffs only faced small wind chop and the tides. LGA's apply for state and federal funding on offer for range of purposes. I mean, did someone forget about the old idiom about 'shifting sands' or what? Whether the NSW state government / local council want to backflip with a pike on their current failing seawall master plan is another thing. Some relevant links from when I had a dig around before. Thanks Craig aod if you are THE Jody P, yes you are a ledge. Will this mean sand depletion north and a build up south? On top of this they have places sand band grounds out perpendicular to the sandunes. Didnt hear boo about that from anyone ? The works to protect private homes is being 80% funded by private owners, with Council and the NSW Government contributing 10% each. The thing is- in those pics, behind the walls, there's really not much to protect. Basically the awarding of contracts falls across a couple of ministries. Whe I checked the link today on the second one it went to the first DA for the sloping rock wall, not the second one for the vertical concrete wall. Its like something out of a dystopian movie. Please enable it to continue. You wouldn't accept that in a bridge from an engineer, so why accept it in anything else? Like I said at the start, IF he is an "expert coastal engineer" then we are in a much deeper hole than I imagined. No fuckers complained about the rebar reef. On top of this living around moruya last year the slow gently shaped dune leading into the beach was transformed for a straight 3m high drop off that you had to jump down by the end of all the ECLs around August. Such a shame its job wasn't to conserve the beach and public access at the same time. All the sand has moved south east where previously there were great rock lagoons there is now 100 metres of sand dunes. This is where I live. The sea wall forms a permanent, stationary barrier between the sea and the land. Northern Beaches Council are the biggest tossers ever. Holds more water and replenish the beach? This seawall will not only protect our homes but also Pittwater Rd, and the many communication and public services installed under it, from inevitable future storm events. Hi Craig, the short answer is I'm not sure as I have been out of NSW too long. If that was the only report they did then it would be good to know on what scientific advice, if any, they changed the plan. Drone footage over Collaroyafter the June 2016 'Black Nor'easter swell' (Photo: UNSW Water Research Laboratory). Yep, prevents over-topping but how's the reflection and enhanced rebound wave back into the surf zone!? Is Carties a perfect candidate for a coastal engineering and resculpting project that kills two birds with one stone: that fixes the harbour entrance shoaling problem and turns Carties into an actual quality wave? Cheers. Wow, that is ugly even by brutalist/modernist standards. It will still be a bargain now compared to 60 years from now if they do the same. They also recently dug the mother of all holes in the sand and put huge foundations down ( well over a years work) for what I thought was further erosion work but turn out to be a access ramp for beach who cant step down onto the beach. That this kind of construction was approved with the obvious impacts on the public domain (the beach) simply beggars belief, and the real focus should be on the process to consider the design options and then issue the approval. They are multi millionaire asset owners. Making it deeper? We all have valuable opinions, but they need to be separated from facts at all times, especially when it comes to Journalism. Should this critical lens be applied to other topics such as the Coolum wavepool? I guess that makes offshore options quite limited, So I'm a little confused as to why there are hardly any real solutions put forward to deal with coastal erosion in 2021, despite our huge body of scientific knowledge regarding the issue. good pics there willi, hadn't realised this. The seven metres protruding above sea level is vertical, even going beyond vertical for the final metre to prevent wave overtopping. Northern beaches residents have been worried about how their beloved beach would fare when large swells and high tides hit the controversial Collaroy seawall. Beaches with hard structures can return, though it takes longer, and rocks and concrete in the wave zone also make for a dangerous combination. I've got a mate who works for MHL as a coastal engineer. @Craig - Seem us humans have been doing dumb shit for quite a while now. South Narrabeen beach is now useless to anyone. Everything else may go but that wall is here to stay. Well go for them, put in your FOI requests and prove what we all suspect; that the council turned a blind eye to save themselves some money and appease a noisy minority. RAW footage from this week's extra-large swell at Peahi. That video represents a nightmare scenario, no beach, no waves and similar to Zen's story ie man made interference gone wrong. Dates announced for Spencer Frost and Guy Williment's film shot in Russia's far east. Anybody heard of rising ocean levels & retreat by wealthy landholders who where allowed to build in the dune systems which nature designed to replenish the beaches? Records show the DA for the Collaroy Seawall had been lodged 18 months earlier in July 2018. A northeast swell generated by ex-TC Seth off Queensland,. My working assumption is that they have behaved unethically on this matter. So there is probably another DA somewhere. Please include direct and indirect costs. I definitely disagree with a buy back. I think the re-sale value of their properties trumped their ability to access the from their back garden. Adjacent a second wall constructed just to the north, the half finished revetment was torn to rubble with dangerous rebar, boulders and cement being washed into the surf zone. Posted the story from that link here. A number of properties along the oceanfront from Narrabeen to Collaroy were seriously endangered by erosion during a large storm swell in 2016. It is all about the road. It's propped up by the NSW and local governments way beyond the importance or value of that stretch of private land. Also, ALL the Numerical modeling was done in comparison to the current altered beach-state and NOT to a natural beach-state so there is bias in modeling things that way even though the beach state is not natural any more. Collaroy Seawall Detailed Survey for construction of a new seawall in highly sensitive erosion zone. I can't believe that those structures have been built in 2021 and that the legislation still hasn't been amended to counter the property rights of the owners. I tear up and swear to myself. https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tarzans-stormy-st-clair-skinny-dip. However, Craig, when you say "Comparing the swell to those of last year it wasn't of any major significance but it shows the futile efforts trying to protect property with a hard structure." Look at offshore reefs around all the pacific islands. Great article highlighting the competing interests of the natural environment and local councils (which are too easily manipulated by wealthy stakeholders). However the short period easterly swells go straight into all parts of the surfcoast digging it up and turn almost every beach with low swell energy into an ugly mess. Lol. So fkd how big some of those sea walls are and just ruin the towns completely and those that rely on the area, Theyve done the same thing to much of Taiwans coast, see eg: http://www.irjes.com/Papers/vol6-issue10/F61012431.pdf. Apparently there was a buy back scheme that faltered in the early 1980's when the department of public works ran out of money. A concrete seawall designed to stop coastal erosion is being built from Collaroy to South Narrabeen on Sydney's northern beaches. If you're looking to protect your property from flooding with erosion control in McHenry, IL and the larger Chicagoland area, give Seawalls Unlimited a call at (815) 331-8830. https://www.sydneycoastalcouncils.com.au/sites/default/files/JRCorkill_A(2)_Prop_L_Rev_67-84.pdf, yes, Blindboy, I am guessing they had absolutely no input on the final [or initial] design what-so-ever as they were only used as a consulting service by the Coastal engineers. I will check with him and report back. It may not happen in my lifetime [fingers-crosssed] but it's a real issue when thinking about your children who eventually inherit your home. 42 online submissions ALL supporting the wall but many seem to think it would be a sloping rock construction. We can mess things up in a colossal way, and then keep doing it repeatedly. First completed by the French in 1735, the Pondicherry seawall reaches a height of 27 feet above sea level. Good point, lilas, that explains the mystery of why aborigines didn't build their homes close to the ocean. Has been for a while. Surely going to get all crazy reverb and backwash stripping their sand more rapidly as well. Installing the Pilings is the fourth step. The beach has remained under threat since that time, with additional erosion occurring during subsequent storms. Theyve introduced these gently sloped walls to broaden the widths of the roads to protect them from erosion. 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